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player avatar Suzaku

✉ Offers

From
avatarVapour
451; 261; 0		Steam iconSteam Trades iconDiscord🌐 ROW:EU
ViaEnhanced Barter GitHub icon (not associated with Barter.vg)
To
avatarSuzaku
30; 26; 0		Steam iconSteam Trades iconDiscord🌐 ROW TR

⚖️ Mediator Action On: Volunteers may decline this offer based upon fairness (on due to receiver's offer preferences).

< Proposed
Declined (mediator action)
X Mediator Bart-ee declined offer
  • < Vapour proposed offer to Suzaku
  • 🕗 Vapour set proposed offer to expire
  • avatar I'm not here to be called a thief and to justify of insane accusations, lol. I'll happily leave the site to traders you are able to respect and welcome
  • I'm happy too see that you are saying I'm here to steal. That's exactly what I was waiting to see.
  • avatar In what world is ~1,01€ for ~25,45€ a fair offer (the current one we're discussing), when you don't even redeem the keys you trade for? Nice 24€ profit for you, but sure, we're the unfair ones here for declining this kind of offer and issuing warnings if you keep doing this thing.
  • avatar You are right. I'm here to steal from other users. Now please suspend me.
  • You're reiterating the concept that I'm sending unfair offers. OK, fine.
  • Your last comment is so wrong on many levels, moreover coming from a mod. Simply incredible. Fine anyway.
  • avatar So in your opinion, we should suspend users that send unfair offers but who DON'T use Enhanced Barter, and spare the ones that use Enhanced Barter because they *somehow* don't have control (to be read: they pretend not to have control) over the unfair offers that the tool sends out? How does that even make sense?
  • avatar You weren't unreasonable in deleting offers, you are unfair in treating users this way. It's no problem anyway, I'm informed about the state of affairs on this website and will act consequently.
  • avatar For the 2-3 offers that we declined today, you can use the excuse "I didn't have time", because indeed we declined them a few minutes after you sent them out. But what excuse do you have for the other ~25 that we had to decline in the past because of how unfair they were?
  • It takes several warnings and several unfair offers to get someone suspended. We only want people to decrease the amount of unfair offers that they send out. If you use Enhanced Barter, all you have to do to avoid this is to check them after they are created.
  • In this case yes, we saw a couple of your offers a few minutes after they were created, but back then you has sent more than 150. That was, as I said, 2h ago. You will not be suspended for a single offer, even though you think we're that kind of "unreasonable".
  • avatar Most of the trades you cancelled were done in a few minutes after I sent them by the way. Often I wasn't even at the PC. But as I say, I'm feeling nausea by having to justify this to mods.
  • You reiterate your arrogance. Great. I have barely had the time to answer to traders who have accepted my offers. I'm nauseous by your behaviour. Please go on and suspend me.
  • avatar Currently you have more than 70 pending offers that you sent 2h ago. You claim you don't have time to check them. I would say that 2h is more than enough to quickly go through them and assess their fairness. Among them, I already spotted several unfair ones that you haven't cancelled yet. So, you're all talk and no action.
  • So far, 27 of your offers had to be declined in the past few weeks. I am sure that you had plenty of time in other circumstances to check your offers, yet you didn't - we're not always there to check your offers as soon as they're sent out.
  • avatar I'm done, at least for now. I'll delete all offers and leave this site to lowballers and the other arrogant people who thrive here. Bye.
  • Anyway your tone is inequivocable. I was not wrong about this site's attitude towards users. Fine.
  • Even if they were 20 or 30, it wouldn't have been possible to me to check them before the Bart-ee comment. Also, I have no way of controlling how many offers Enhanced Barter sends, or I should leave out a lot of games and the offers would be worse
  • Why spamming? What's this tone? A lot of users accept my offers, why are they spam? Is this how the site treats users?
  • I don't ask personal support, but if you tell me to "keep offers in check", and threaten to suspend me, you should answer to the question of how to do so.
  • avatar Then perhaps you should refrain from spamming hundreds of them at the same time? If you can't keep a tool in check, then don't use it.
  • avatar My automated offers aren't unbalanced, but as you know Enhanced Barter does not give enough tools to rule out unbalanced offers. Suspending users because of this, without consideration for what is happening, is unfair.
  • With automated offers you send a lot of them, and people start accepting and coming in chat. I try to review the offers I send, but it's not always possible to do so in short time.
  • avatar You can voice your opinions on the Barter forum, as others do. Then your offers can be openly discussed in a public environment. A similar case to yours was Hallak, perhaps you want to check that topic first. We're trying to avoid offering personal support as this takes too much of our time, but rest assured Bart-ee is not a bot.
  • We can't see on our activity feed the comments you leave on offers. We check the offers we leave comments on, to see if anyone replied (like this is the case), but this has to be done manually. We're not targeting you specifically, there are plenty of suspensions applied, curator traders or other resellers altogether.
  • With automatic offers, you have the responsibility of checking your outgoing trades. After you send them, check them for fairness and cancel the ones that are very much one-sided, in your favor. Not doing this might result in us cancelling them, and if the unfair offers become too extreme, you will just get suspended.
  • avatar I feel like I'm being treated unfairly, but I guess the mods don't care about this. Fake curators and lowballers of course are welcome. And you guys never show up to tell things when you can get asked about it. Great environment, thank you.
  • I'd really love to talk to a mod. May I be contacted? Should I write to someone? I've asked multiple times but never received a reply. Thank you very much.
  • How can I filter trades based on price? Is it possible to talk to a human?
  • avatar @Vapour: I suggest you keep your Enhanced Barter offers in check if you want to avoid a suspension. Sending offers such as Troublemaker ~1,01€ for Street Fighter™ 6 ~25,45€ will not be tolerated.
  • avatar Automated offer to exchange any of those games for any with 100+ reviews. As always, automated offers can be imbalanced and there may be mistakes. Pls be patient if I need to ask to cancel some trades. Btw don't be shy to decline!
  • I'm very upset with mods for their arrogant and unfair behavior. If you're a mod, I'm waiting for you to contact me and apologize. Overview
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