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player avatar L33TKEYS

X Dispute (sent item, received nothing) 8 years ago

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From
avatar⛔ L33TKEYS
106; 85; 1 Dispute		Steam iconSteam Trades iconDiscord🌐 ROW
To
avatarBarry Evil
162; 138; 0		Steam iconSteam Trades iconDiscord🌐 ROW
< Proposed
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X Failed
X Failed
Offer Failed Dispute unresolved, games or items lost ( about disputes )

L33TKEYS claimed other party abandoned offer

Barry Evil claimed I sent item, but received nothing in exchange

avatar brake volunteered to mediate this dispute.

I talked with Barry Evil and they explained that they had send their game to L33TKEYS, while L33TKEYS was offline.
Later on Barry Evil contacted L33TKEYS, asking for the game L33TKEYS had promissed them in return ( since L33TKEYS was unresponsive, after Barry Evil had send them the key ), to which L33TKEYS replied that they haven't received any keys from Barry Evil.
Then Barry Evil posted their key in the chat again.
Later on L33TKEYS told Barry Evil that they don't want the key anymore and then they ( L33TKEYS ) became abusive.

L33TKEYS provided screenshot of the Of Guards and Thieves from their ''product and license key activations'' - The date that Of Guards And Thieves was activated on L33TKEYS's account is 2016/04/13
Speaking with L33TKEYS they claim that they got the game prior to their trade with Barry Evil ( from trade with Kaje ) from this offer - https://barter.vg/u/fcc/o/361738/

Even though the dates are pretty close I am not sure why L33TKEYS completes an offer for Of Guards And Thieves on 2016/04/10 (with Kaje, as L33TKEYS claims), but then the date L33TKEYS activates the game ( 2016/04/13 ) and the date L33TKEYS fails the offer with Barry Evil ( 2016/04/13 ) match.

Another thing ( irrelevant for this specific dispute but relevant response to the comment by L33TKEYS below ):
I barely managed to get a screenshot of the product and license key activation for Of Guards and Thieves.
But L33TKEYS refused to provide screenshot for another game (that is concerning another dispute).
All I asked from L33TKEYS is to provide those two screenshots, so that I can finish with the disputes and not bother him anymore.

Instead of that L33TKEYS went on explaining about what kind of people are the ones,
that created the disputes against him, asking who I am ( though I introduced myself and explained why I am contacting him, along with providing links to the disputes).

I spent two hours listening to L33TKEYS talking about things I didn't ask for, neither I was interested in.
I explained that I need only screenshots from the activation of the two games ( and even explained to them where they can find those activations ). I even asked L33TKEYS if they will provide the screenshot for the second game later on, but they refused to provide it at all, stating I was too rude and that I was waisting their time.

That is all that happend in our conversation - me explaining that I am trying to help L33TKEYS get the two disputes off his Barter profile, and that all I need is screenshots from the game acitvations. And L33TKEYS kept saying that I was abusing him and that I was rude ( while them keep talking about things I didn't ask for) .

Then I explained that I have neither time neither the nerves to deal with him, acting like I was the bad person. After which L33TKEYS used an offensive word, which lead to me removing them from my list.

All screenshots from my conversations with Barry Evil and L33TKEYS were provided to Barter.
Also though I am the mediator the final decision ( ''call'' ) is not mine but Barter's.
He is the one to decide what to do, based on evidence provided. 7 years ago

X Barry Evil failed offer with braduc1980
  • X braduc1980 failed offer with Barry Evil
  • > Barry Evil accepted offer from braduc1980
  • < braduc1980 proposed offer to Barry Evil
  • 🕗 Barry Evil set accepted offer to expire
  • 🕗 L33TKEYS set proposed offer to expire
  • avatar I actually, research and validate for a living, past 14 years. You have no business trying to mediate. You have absolute no clue what you are doing. Either properly review the evidence or go away and remove your nonsensical comments.
  • Provide me evidence that the key was sent to me, as well as evidence of key purchase by Barry Evil, or i will be forced to drag this across the internet. This would be embarrassing for you. Its beyond comical...you cant process how this works.
  • Further more, how do either of us know that Barry Evil ever had a key in the first place? Do you have evidence that Barry Evil ever had a legitimate key? I would like to see evidence of the purchase receipt for barry Evil's guards and thieves key.
  • I also shared with you evidence of a successful barter trade for the same game, that occurred prior to the failed date for this one. Since you cant prove which trade resulted in key activation, how can you make the call?
  • Wow, you come up with that on your own? "when the key was activated are indeed screenshot from the activation date"
  • avatar I am obliged to explain what Barry Evil had told me. As I am obliged to explain what I was told by both sides. However the evidence, showing when the key was activated are indeed the screenshot from the activation date.
  • You decided to be personal and state something that is not related to this dispute. Which I decided to explain and clearly stated it is not related to this dispute.
  • avatar If you disagree with my claims of false statements, then please, provide proof. Of course, that is all you will need and i will rescind those comments.
  • You failed to prove or come up with evidence for either side in this "dispute" A lot of personal opinions about me in your summary, literally no evidence. You should be ashamed of yourself.
  • False Statement 5: I spent two hours listening to L33TKEYS talking about things I didn't ask for
  • False Statement 4: But L33TKEYS refused to provide screenshot for another game (that is concerning another dispute).
  • False Statement 3: but then the date L33TKEYS activates the game ( 2016/04/13 ) and the date L33TKEYS fails the offer with Barry Evil ( 2016/04/13 ) match.
  • Fasle Statement 2: Then Barry Evil posted their key in the chat again. Later on L33TKEYS told Barry Evil that they don't want the key anymore and then they ( L33TKEYS ) became abusive.
  • False Statements: Later on Barry Evil contacted L33TKEYS, asking for the game L33TKEYS had promissed them in return ( since L33TKEYS was unresponsive, after Barry Evil had send them the key ), to which L33TKEYS replied that they haven't received any keys
  • avatar All I heard from you so far is offensive language, threats and lack of any desire to talk with another person calmly. The real evidence can be found in user's ''product and license key activations''.
  • My final thoughts are based on th date from the screenshot provided and the dates from this offer. Those are facts. As for false statements - please do let me know if I said something untrue.
  • If I wanted to base my mediating solely on Barry Evil's words I wouldn't have talked with you at all. Instead I spent my time to talk to you and prove if you are innocent or not.
  • avatar I'll find a way to repay the favor pal. brake[B>Cards / TF2 Backpacks] is a sad, lonely individual, no job, no life, lacks integrity and intelligence. Good luck to you in your future unwanted self insertions.
  • Your speculative " I am not sure why L33TKEYS completes an offer for Of Guards And Thieves on 2016/04/10 (with Kaje, as L33TKEYS claims)" Is really not your business nor the job of a mediator.
  • Additionally, you have made false statements (i can prove) in your nonsensical "mediation summary". Have somehow determined that Barry's word is greater than the tangible evidence i provided you.
  • And you provide zero evidence of Barry's claim that he sent me keys. Not only did you self impose your self into something nobody asked for, but you lack integrity and intelligence. Your "mediation" is no where near being in the middle.
  • This was the most god awful attempt at mediation ever. What an invasive, abrasive person
  • avatar Adding on Steam to talk
  • avatar Comment Hidden to Avoid Losing Game: Link detected
  • and also, how are you determining that it was activated?
  • can you show me the chat log?
  • I didnt even see a message from you, and definately no key
  • I never activated your game
  • avatar I sent the key before going on vacation. You have activated it but not sent a game in return and have blocked me on Steam.
  • avatar there is no dispute to resolve. You never showed up. You just now (2 days later) failed the offer.
  • Barry. You are a massive failure. Not a winner.
  • barry do you want to cancel the trade?
  • I welcome all offers! Be nice please! Overview
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